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Episode 99 - Slackware Revisited
« on: March 19, 2008, 08:33:14 AM »

In this episode: I take a few minutes to revisit The Slackware Linux Project, and discuss some of the great resources available to Slackware users, such as the LinuxQuestions.org Slackware official support forum, Slackwiki.org, Slackbook.org, and Slackbasics.org. I also talk about Slackware package management, how to use SlackBuild scripts such as those from SlackBuilds.org, and some of the new features that will appear in the next release.

http://www.linuxreality.com/podcast/episode-99-slackware-revisited/
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Re: Episode 99 - Slackware Revisited
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2008, 01:56:44 PM »

Slackware is really your friend, Chess. But I couldn't agree more.
As always, a Slackware feature makes me want to blow away my current system and bring back the Slack.
By the way, here is the new LiLo splash. It is nice to look at, but with the number of distributions I install, GrUB is so much easier.
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Re: Episode 99 - Slackware Revisited
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2008, 03:58:04 AM »

thanks to Linux Reality, i know exactly what you are saying. i absolutely love slackware. there is nothing out there that is more stable than slack. nothing. Smiley

the new boot splash is def a welcomed change too. i always just stuck with lilo on my slack install. never had a problem with it.

awesome episode.

Edit. can someone post the gtkrc file for dropline gnome if you have it installed? i always liked that but kept forgetting to copy it. dont install it if you dont want to use it. its a pain trying to remove it.
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Re: Episode 99 - Slackware Revisited
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2008, 10:28:28 AM »

By the way, the Slackbook is official enough. It is included in cd5.
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Re: Episode 99 - Slackware Revisited
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2008, 12:25:32 PM »

Perfect subject for this episode, Chess. A friend of mine just bought a new computer, and asked what distro he should try. Of course I told him my favorite is Slackware, and I'll be sure to let him know that you decided to discuss it more. Thanks Chess -- for helping people like me introduce GNU/Linux to users of other OS's.
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Re: Episode 99 - Slackware Revisited
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2008, 10:27:36 AM »

As always, a great episode Chess.  And this revisit to Slackware was awesome.  I'm just as excited about the new features you mentioned.  FUSE is really cool to tinker with.  As for KDE, I'm quite happy with the 3.5.x series.  It's pretty stable and runs nicely, even on my Athlon XP 2400+.  KDE 4.x looks beautiful, but I imagine it would take some getting used to.  I'm not in that much of a hurry to leave 3.5.x...it works quite well for me. Smiley

I think once the 12.1 version is out for Slamd64, I'll put it on my work laptop (Dell Lat D630 with C2D processor).
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Re: Episode 99 - Slackware Revisited
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2008, 11:47:40 AM »

Actually, I never really got into Slack 12. Slack 11 was very good, but v12 with all the changes didn't go down too well.
Wolvix, which I was very impressed with, is based on Slack 11. It is a very good Xfce-based Slackware-respin.
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Re: Episode 99 - Slackware Revisited
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2008, 01:34:35 AM »

i know i switched away from slack just before 12 was released so i dont have a lot of experience with it. 11 was so awesome though that i cant help but imagine it is great.
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Re: Episode 99 - Slackware Revisited
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2008, 01:52:19 PM »

Edit. can someone post the gtkrc file for dropline gnome if you have it installed? i always liked that but kept forgetting to copy it. dont install it if you dont want to use it. its a pain trying to remove it.

i just installed slackware in a vm and installed dropline just so i could get the theme. Smiley

here is a screenshot of my arch install with the dropline gnome twoeighteen theme.



here is the gtkrc file if anyone wants it. if anyone uses gnome and you want the metacity theme stuff just let me know with a pm, email or in the irc.

oh and this requires the Murrine gtk theme engine.

Code:
# Based on Clearlooks
# Created by Jakub Steiner, Garrett LeSage,
# Richard Stellingwerff, Emil Jacobs, and Daniel Borgmann.

style "theme-default"
{
  GtkButton      ::default_border    = { 0, 0, 0, 0 }
  GtkRange       ::trough_border     = 0
  GtkPaned       ::handle_size       = 8
  GtkRange       ::slider_width      = 15
  GtkRange       ::stepper_size      = 15
  GtkScrollbar   ::min_slider_length = 30
  GtkCheckButton ::indicator_size    = 14
  GtkMenuBar     ::internal-padding  = 0
  GtkTreeView    ::expander_size     = 12
  GtkExpander    ::expander_size     = 14

  xthickness = 1
  ythickness = 1

  fg[NORMAL]        = "#101010" # very dark gray #101010
  fg[PRELIGHT]      = "#101010" # dark grey
  fg[ACTIVE]        = "#000000" # black
  fg[SELECTED]      = "#ffffff" # white
  fg[INSENSITIVE]   = "#beb399" # dark beige / grey (disabled text)

  bg[NORMAL]        = "#fbf8f1" # light beige / grey
  bg[PRELIGHT]      = "#b6d5f5" # very light beige
  bg[ACTIVE]        = "#99c6f5" # mid beige / grey
  bg[SELECTED]      = "#6798cb" # blueish
  bg[INSENSITIVE]   = "#f1efde" # light beige / grey

  base[NORMAL]      = "#ffffff" # white
  base[PRELIGHT]    = "#729fcf" # blueish
  base[SELECTED]    = "#6798cb" # blueish
  base[INSENSITIVE] = "#fbf8f1" #light beige / grey
  base[ACTIVE]      = "#96b9d5"
  base[PRELIGHT]    = "#729fcf" # Selected item background

engine "murrine"  {
contrast = 1.0
scrollbar_color = "#6798cb"
scrollbarstyle = 3 # Enable or disable circles, stripes, handles
menuitemstyle = 1 # 0 = flat, 1 = glassy, 2
listviewstyle = 1 # 0 = nothing, 1 = dotted
roundness = 1 # 0 = squared, 1 = old default, more will increase roundness
glazestyle = 0 # 0 = flat hilight, 1 = curved hilight, 2 = concave style, 3 = top curved hilight, 4 = beryl style
menubarstyle = 2 # 0 = flat, 1 = glassy, 2 = gradient, 3 = striped
menubaritemstyle = 0 # 0 = menuitem look, 1 = button look
listviewheaderstyle = 1 # 0 = flat, 1 = glassy, 2 = raised
animation = TRUE # FALSE = disabled, TRUE = enabled
  }
}

style "theme-wide" = "theme-default"
{
  xthickness = 2
  ythickness = 2
}

style "theme-wider" = "theme-default"
{
  xthickness = 3
  ythickness = 3
}

style "theme-button" = "theme-wider"
{
}

style "theme-scale" = "theme-button"
{
}

style "theme-scrollbar" = "theme-button"
{
  xthickness = 2
  ythickness = 2
}

style "theme-range" = "theme-default"
{
  xthickness = 3
  ythickness = 3
}

style "theme-notebook" = "theme-wide"
{
  base[SELECTED]    = "#9cbcdf"  # Tab selection color
  bg[ACTIVE]        = "#f0e7d3"  # Unselected tabs
 
}

style "theme-tasklist" = "theme-default"
{
  xthickness = 5
  ythickness = 3
}

style "theme-menu" = "theme-default"
{
  xthickness = 2
  ythickness = 1
  bg[NORMAL] = "#fdfbf7"
}

style "theme-menu-item" = "theme-default"
{
  xthickness = 2
  ythickness = 3 
  fg[PRELIGHT] = "#ffffff"
  text[PRELIGHT] = "#ffffff"
  #bg[NORMAL] = "#00ff00"    # Horizontal lines
  base[PRELIGHT] = "#5a81b4" # Selection color
}

style "theme-menubar" = "theme-default"
{
  xthickness = 2
  ythickness = 2
}

style "theme-menubar-item" = "theme-menu-item"
{
}

style "theme-tree" = "theme-default"
{
  xthickness = 2
  ythickness = 2
  GtkTreeView::odd_row_color = "#f7f7ff"
  GtkTreeView::even_row_color = "#ffffff"
}

style "theme-tooltips" = "theme-default"
{
  xthickness = 4
  ythickness = 4
  bg[NORMAL] = { 1.0,1.0,0.75 }
}

style "theme-progressbar" = "theme-wide"
{
  xthickness = 0
  ythickness = 0
  fg[PRELIGHT] = "#ffffff"
}

style "theme-combo" = "theme-button"
{
}

style "theme-frame-title" = "theme-default"
{
  fg[NORMAL] = "#2a2a2a"
}

style "metacity-frame" = "theme-default"
{
  bg[SELECTED]  = "#5c82b5"
}

style "theme-slab" = "theme-default"
{
    bg[SELECTED] = "#84b0da"    # Outline
    bg[NORMAL] = "#fdfbf7"      # Base bg color
    bg[ACTIVE] = "#e9eef5"      # Right side bg color
    fg[NORMAL] = "#6a97c5"      # Left side caption text color
    fg[INSENSITIVE] = "#5c8dbf" # Right side caption text color
}

style "theme-slab-group" = "theme-default"
{
    #bg[SELECTED] = "#adc09b"  # Slab group text
}

style "theme-shell" = "theme-default"
{
    bg[ACTIVE] = "#e9eef5"      # Left side bg color
    fg[NORMAL] = "#5c8dbf"      # Left side text color
    fg[INSENSITIVE] = "#bdcce1" # Left side line
   
    base[NORMAL] = "#fdfbf7"        # Base bg color
    text[INSENSITIVE] = "#6a97c5"   # Base text color
}

style "evolution-hack" = "clearlooks-default"
{
        bg[ACTIVE]   = "#96b9d5"
        bg[SELECTED] = "#6798cb"
        fg[ACTIVE]   = "#000000"
        fg[SELECTED] = "#ffffff"
}

style "theme-shell-highlight" = "theme-default"
{
}

#nautilus search stripe and other specialties
style "extra-view" {
bg[NORMAL] = "#729fcf"
font = "Sans 6"
}

#nautilus search stripe
widget "*.nautilus-extra-view-widget" style:highest "extra-view"

# Toolbar
#class "GtkToolbar" style "theme-toolbar"

# GNOME-main-menu slab
class "SlabWindow" style "theme-slab"

# App Browser & Control Center
class "ShellWindow" style "theme-shell"
widget_class "ShellWindow.*.GtkEventBox" style "theme-shell-highlight"

# Evolution
widget_class "*GtkCTree*" style "evolution-hack"
widget_class "*GtkList*" style "evolution-hack"
widget_class "*GtkCList*" style "evolution-hack"
widget_class "*.ETree.*" style "evolution-hack"

# widget styles
class "GtkWidget"      style "theme-default"
class "GtkButton"      style "theme-button"
class "GtkScale"       style "theme-range"
class "GtkCombo"       style "theme-button"
class "GtkScale"       style "theme-scale"
class "GtkScrollbar"   style "theme-scrollbar"
class "GtkRange"       style "theme-wide"
class "GtkFrame"       style "theme-wide"
class "GtkMenu"        style "theme-menu"
class "GtkEntry"       style "theme-wider"
class "GtkMenuItem"    style "theme-menu-item"
class "GtkNotebook"    style "theme-notebook"
class "GtkProgressBar" style "theme-progressbar"
class "*MenuBar*"      style "theme-menubar"

widget_class "*MenuItem.*" style "theme-menu-item"
widget_class "*MenuBar.*"  style "theme-menubar-item"

# combobox stuff
widget_class "*.GtkComboBox.GtkButton" style "theme-combo"
widget_class "*.GtkCombo.GtkButton"    style "theme-combo"

# tooltips stuff
widget_class "*.tooltips.*.GtkToggleButton" style "theme-tasklist"
widget "gtk-tooltips"   style "theme-tooltips"

# treeview stuff
widget_class "*.GtkTreeView.GtkButton" style "theme-tree"
widget_class "*.GtkCTree.GtkButton" style "theme-tree"
widget_class "*.GtkList.GtkButton" style "theme-tree"
widget_class "*.GtkCList.GtkButton" style "theme-tree"
widget_class "*.GtkFrame.GtkLabel" style "theme-frame-title"

# notebook stuff
widget_class "*.GtkNotebook.*.GtkEventBox" style "theme-notebook"
widget_class "*.GtkNotebook.*.GtkViewport" style "theme-notebook"

# wm stuff
class "MetaFrames"   style "metacity-frame"
class "GtkWindow"      style "metacity-frame"
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Re: Episode 99 - Slackware Revisited
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2008, 05:52:37 PM »

That looks great tlkg!

I just installed Slack12 on an old laptop.  running great!  I've forgotten how awesome Slackware was.  I don't remember the installpkg for Slackware.  But then again I haven't ran it in a LLLLOOONNNGGG time.

Great stuff! 
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Re: Episode 99 - Slackware Revisited
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2008, 01:01:20 AM »

Note that the Slackware changelog of April 3rd noted that this revision was 12.1 rc1.
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